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    As I'm sure everyone already knows, Barack Obama will be taking office on Tuesday, 20 January 2009.

    How do you think he will 'change' our country? For better or worse and you must provide an explanation of your hypothesis.

    **No racial comments will be tolerated in this thread**

    No personal attacks for political views or opinions will be tolerated either. -RotorNut
    Last edited by MeFryRice; 01-15-2009, 04:35 PM.

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    I think he will do some good, you have to think, a lot of people are assuming he is gonna **** up. my thought on it is that he wont **** up on anything, especially with him being the first black man to be president. the whole country will be watching him very closely. the country's unemployment rate is at a all time high. it hasnt been this bad sence WW2!
    Obama is here to help our country and i think that is something that will happen. i dont know exactly how but i do believe that he being our new president will be a good impact on the country's economy!
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    • #3
      I think he will help for many reasons. We won't turn around and all be perfect his term, he has a lot of issues to overcome. I do think he is the right man for it though.

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      • #4
        I agree with Sean that he's going to have a LOT of attention and focus on him. The scrutiny is probably going to be one of the things that wears him out the fastest (if you've compared his campaign pictures to his present pictures, he already looks extremely exhausted).
        Anyway, as far as 'change' is concerned, I think he's already learning that this whole POTUS thing is a lot harder than it looked from the outside. I think he has a ton to learn and experience before he can really focus on all the issues he's promised to address while in office. And no, I don't expect anything overnight, but his lack of political experience leaves him at a slight disadvantage to take care of things as quickly as he may have originally thought. Time, however, will tell. I hope he does good for this country, we really need it right now, he's coming into office at a very rough time, it would be very easy to cast the straw that breaks the camel's back.

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        • #5
          there's really nothing he can do to **** stuff up any worse. I think he's got it pretty easy as far as expectations go.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by MeFryRice View Post
            As I'm sure everyone already knows, Barack Obama will be taking office on Tuesday, 20 January 2009.

            How do you think he will 'change' our country? For better or worse and you must provide an explanation of your hypothesis.

            **No racial comments will be tolerated in this thread**

            No personal attacks for political views or opinions will be tolerated either. -RotorNut
            I think he's going to crush businesses large and small and discourage investment with oppressive tax policies. If that doesn't cost enough jobs, he's also going to raise minimum wage. You think groceries cost too much now? Meanwhile he is going to make our nation less safe from outside attack. All the while he will begin removing civil liberties.

            I'm glad he declared his innagural party to be a celebration for the people. As the people are paying for it. $150 million dollars worth. Or triple what GW's and quadruple what SlickWilly's respective parties cost.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by ben91 View Post
              I think he's going to crush businesses large and small and discourage investment with oppressive tax policies. If that doesn't cost enough jobs, he's also going to raise minimum wage. You think groceries cost too much now? Meanwhile he is going to make our nation less safe from outside attack. All the while he will begin removing civil liberties.

              I'm glad he declared his innagural party to be a celebration for the people. As the people are paying for it. $150 million dollars worth. Or triple what GW's and quadruple what SlickWilly's respective parties cost.
              Give some info to back your statements.

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              • #8
                hahaha at obama removing civil liberties. can you say patriot act? as i said, the state of things is already ridiculous. Also, 'oppressive tax policies' isn't really an issue. republicans have been letting rich people and big companies get away with hardly any taxes forever. it would be far less opressive to small and medium businesses if we could get tax money from other places besides small businesses themselves. Also, I don't see how higher taxes on big businesses would discourage investing.

                your post reads like a really conservative drunk person rambling about how obama is gonna ruin everything.
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                • #9
                  I myself am a conservative and I don't drink. The top earners in this country pay most of the tax. It is a fact. Look it up.
                  As for Obama we don't have much to go on as far as his record. 2 years in the Senate seems to show only that he is the farthest left president yet.

                  Only time will tell if he will come more to the middle. His appointments for his administration seem to be more to the middle than expected except the fact that his main financial advisers are the guys that ran Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac into the ground.

                  Those out there that think that the president and for that matter the government as a whole will actually pull us out of the economic situation we are in are very misled.

                  This country's economy runs on capitalism and more government involvement only stifles that. Higher taxes don't cause people to spend more money any more than they make companies hire more people.

                  The economic stimulus bill they are working on now is a crock. The government does not stimulate the economy.
                  They only take the money out of our pocket and redistribute it. It is socialism plain and simple.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by N3v View Post
                    hahaha at obama removing civil liberties. can you say patriot act? as i said, the state of things is already ridiculous. Also, 'oppressive tax policies' isn't really an issue. republicans have been letting rich people and big companies get away with hardly any taxes forever. it would be far less opressive to small and medium businesses if we could get tax money from other places besides small businesses themselves. Also, I don't see how higher taxes on big businesses would discourage investing.

                    your post reads like a really conservative drunk person rambling about how obama is gonna ruin everything.
                    Your post reads like a really high college student rambling on about how "hemp" is going to save everything.

                    I'd like to offer further response, but you've already shown me that you're not capable of digesting anything I type, so I will not waste my time. So let's raise capital gains, let's tax small businesses and their owners more heavily, let's close Gitmo and let its detainees into our country, let's no longer hunt Bin Laden, let's allow Palistine to wipe out Israel, and let's no longer own any semi-automatic weapons. You can go on with your fairy tale life and enjoy your little $500 stimulus check. Meanwhile, hope the job hunt goes well.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by jester911 View Post
                      The economic stimulus bill they are working on now is a crock. The government does not stimulate the economy.
                      They only take the money out of our pocket and redistribute it. It is socialism plain and simple.
                      You can not cure cancer with more cancer. Nor can you give tax cuts to people who do not pay taxes. Giving checks to people who do not pay taxes is welfare pure and simple.
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                      • #12
                        I am with you Ben.
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                        • #13
                          Easy guys... I see this starting down the wrong path...

                          Originally posted by miata5620
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                          • #14
                            we are never going to find bin laden. hell, he could already be dead.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by RotorNutFD3S View Post
                              I think he has a ton to learn and experience before he can really focus on all the issues he's promised to address while in office.
                              And this is what scares the crap out of me! I want a president who is ready to go, not a young teething senator. Who wants to bet on how many trillions he tacks on to the deficit?

                              Nor can you give tax cuts to people who do not pay taxes.
                              Amen!

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