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    quick question, weld in or bolt in cage?
    '95 w/ now finished '99 swap, kyb agx's, flyin miata springs, sway bars, roll bar and more to come...sigpic

  • #2
    Either. Bolts can fall out or welds can break. Personally, I'd go with the bolt in.

    (Don't anyone start this into another "cage in a street car" thread either!)

    Originally posted by miata5620
    Eric's Garage ... You buy all the parts I tell you to and you will have a killer car... If you want other parts used your car will suck and it will cost you more...

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    • #3
      I think it depends on the future plans. Is this for a race/track car or is it a street car that may just do a few track days? I personally think welding is stronger and better in the long run. Sure welds can break but not nearly as easy as bolts/nuts come loose.

      If it is for a permanent cage I say have it welded in. If you plan to sell the car in the near future just bolt it so that it can be removed if needed.
      2020 Jet Black Mica GT RF

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      • #4
        Bolt-in is going to be easier and just as strong. If you're that concerned about bolts coming loose, give them a quick spray of undercoating from a can. With all the people running around with Hard Dog/Boss Frog equipment, I have yet to hear of anything coming loose.

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        • #5
          Weld in is strongest. And SCCA and NASA don't allow bolt in cages anymore, so if you plan on tracking it....

          I have nothing against bolt in.

          And I plan on DD'ing my car with a cage. As I have before lol.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by RotorNutFD3S View Post
            (Don't anyone start this into another "cage in a street car" thread either!)
            but that discussion is always so much fun!
            1995 Triple Black Miata

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            • #7
              How about both?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by MX5ATLanta.com View Post
                How about both?
                A weld in and a bolt in at the same time, and well the rule change settles it, weld in it is.
                '95 w/ now finished '99 swap, kyb agx's, flyin miata springs, sway bars, roll bar and more to come...sigpic

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                • #9
                  i say bolt in! what happens if you decide to get another miata and want to swap the bar over! easier with a bolt in! really really hard to undo a weld! trust me, i weld for a living!
                  95 R-package 6 speed, MSPNP, AEM WB UEGO, HDHCDD, Walbro 190lph, stock inj, GT2860RS V-band, ARTech Manifold, 3"TBE, TiALMVS 38mm WG, Blitz BOV, NO BOOST!
                  79 Corolla Gutted, weber 32/36, Header, Volk Rays, Ghetto slammed :lol:

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                  • #10
                    I think he is planning on running events with it, so he has to weld it in.

                    Originally posted by miata5620
                    Eric's Garage ... You buy all the parts I tell you to and you will have a killer car... If you want other parts used your car will suck and it will cost you more...

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Doppelgänger View Post
                      Bolt-in is going to be easier and just as strong. If you're that concerned about bolts coming loose, give them a quick spray of undercoating from a can. With all the people running around with Hard Dog/Boss Frog equipment, I have yet to hear of anything coming loose.

                      Instead of undercoating, use locktite red, will not come loose unless you apply heat.
                      Undercoating is messy and not designed to prevent bolts from coming loose.
                      sigpicLance
                      2008 MX5 PRHT (sold)
                      2014 Corvette Stingray Z51 Coupe
                      1981 Morgan Plus 8, 2016 Morgan three wheeler

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by lance View Post
                        Instead of undercoating, use locktite red, will not come loose unless you apply heat.
                        Undercoating is messy and not designed to prevent bolts from coming loose.
                        I used loctite on mine. But I also used spray-on undercoat as recommended by Hard Dog so that the exposed holes would not rust. Did it for my frame rail install too. It's not messy if you do it right.

                        Originally posted by miata5620
                        Eric's Garage ... You buy all the parts I tell you to and you will have a killer car... If you want other parts used your car will suck and it will cost you more...

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                        • #13
                          Either way, IF HE IS RACING, MUST WELD IN. Bolt in is not legal.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by simontibbett View Post
                            Either way, IF HE IS RACING, MUST WELD IN. Bolt in is not legal.
                            Yeah, that was covered. Stop screaming.

                            Originally posted by miata5620
                            Eric's Garage ... You buy all the parts I tell you to and you will have a killer car... If you want other parts used your car will suck and it will cost you more...

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                            • #15
                              !!!!!!!!!!!!!!NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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