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    What to get??? Currently on 615's love em but they are well beyond their life span. Have had rs-2's on another car liked them better for everyday street rain etc. I am getting a bit tired of replacing tires every year, but don't want to give up the grip. What to do and what to get?

  • #2
    RE: 14 inch Tires

    615s are the best street tire IMO. they last longer than the hankook but give up alot of the wet traction. id stick with the 615s

    you cant get more treadwear without giving up grip.
    DIE WHITE GIRLS

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    • #3
      RE: 14 inch Tires

      I think the 615s are a better race tire. Driving in the wet shouldn't be a white-knuckle, pray to whatever god you see fit because you're about to die experience on a 'good' street tire. (ok, it's not THAT bad... but it's not good). I've had the hankooks on 2 of my cars, and I love them as a street tire. I've currently got them on my P5. As far as a tire that is that good in the wet, with pretty decent dry grip and comfortable, I think the RS2 is the best STREET tire in its price range.

      And while the 615s may last long tread-wear wise, they will become bricks before they run out of tread. So, while you still have thread depth, your grip still goes to crap.
      ~Andrew
      Atlanta Region SCCA
      D Prepared Miata

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      • #4
        RE: 14 inch Tires

        Funny how it seems these are the only 2 tires left in 14 inch that are worth a damn. I'd be willing to give up a little grip as I have not done any autox in the past year but I do like to go up to n ga.

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        • #5
          RE: 14 inch Tires

          Originally posted by amaff
          I think the 615s are a better race tire. Driving in the wet shouldn't be a white-knuckle, pray to whatever god you see fit because you're about to die experience on a 'good' street tire. (ok, it's not THAT bad... but it's not good). I've had the hankooks on 2 of my cars, and I love them as a street tire. I've currently got them on my P5. As far as a tire that is that good in the wet, with pretty decent dry grip and comfortable, I think the RS2 is the best STREET tire in its price range.

          And while the 615s may last long tread-wear wise, they will become bricks before they run out of tread. So, while you still have thread depth, your grip still goes to crap.
          well the 615s are CHEAP. lol. and no, you probably wont be hauling *** in the wet but 615s hydroplane MUCH easier due to the tread pattern.

          heres how i see it:

          615s-
          GREAT grip dry.
          HORRIBLE in more than damp conditions.
          last much much longer, but get hard as they get old.

          rs-2s-
          GREAT grip in dry.
          DECENT wet grip and less likely to hydroplane .
          wont last as long, but stay soft throughout life.
          overheat VERY easily and will de-laminate, even under autocross conditions. ive seen it happen MANY times, even shaved.
          DIE WHITE GIRLS

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          • #6
            RE: 14 inch Tires

            Originally posted by jesseealexander
            will de-laminate, even under autocross conditions. ive seen it happen MANY times, even shaved.
            WTF!? I ran a set of Z212s from full tread down to NOTHING last year on the miata... they didn't grain, they sure as hell didn't delaminate... what are you talking about?
            ~Andrew
            Atlanta Region SCCA
            D Prepared Miata

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            • #7
              RE: 14 inch Tires

              Originally posted by amaff
              Originally posted by jesseealexander
              will de-laminate, even under autocross conditions. ive seen it happen MANY times, even shaved.
              WTF!? I ran a set of Z212s from full tread down to NOTHING last year on the miata... they didn't grain, they sure as hell didn't delaminate... what are you talking about?
              the set matt had on the civic went to ****, and ive seen it happen to a couple other people too. the blistered and delaminated BAD.
              DIE WHITE GIRLS

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              • #8
                RE: 14 inch Tires

                I'm on 615's got 10k out of them so far. I think they may be getting harder at this point but they still grip much better than anything else I've experienced. And I really don't see what the water grip issues are. These things have been very hydroplane resistant and it's not like you aim to drive fast in the wet anyway is it?

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                • #9
                  RE: 14 inch Tires

                  Originally posted by jesseealexander
                  Originally posted by amaff
                  Originally posted by jesseealexander
                  will de-laminate, even under autocross conditions. ive seen it happen MANY times, even shaved.
                  WTF!? I ran a set of Z212s from full tread down to NOTHING last year on the miata... they didn't grain, they sure as hell didn't delaminate... what are you talking about?
                  the set matt had on the civic went to ****, and ive seen it happen to a couple other people too. the blistered and delaminated BAD.
                  Matt manages to delaminate/cord ANY tire he has ever put on a car :lol:. He is NOT a good example to reference tire choice. Hell, when we went to TGP, he had a pair of hankook slicks and he killed them in no time. Yet, i was running hankook slicks and they did great. You forget that he kills whatever tire he has on the rear....because it's constantly being locked up and dragged around:D

                  Have you looked into the Dunlop Direzza Z1 Star Spec ?

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                  • #10
                    RE: 14 inch Tires

                    Originally posted by Doppelgänger
                    Matt manages to delaminate/cord ANY tire he has ever put on a car :lol:. He is NOT a good example to reference tire choice. Hell, when we went to TGP, he had a pair of hankook slicks and he killed them in no time. Yet, i was running hankook slicks and they did great. You forget that he kills whatever tire he has on the rear....because it's constantly being locked up and dragged around:D

                    Have you looked into the Dunlop Direzza Z1 Star Spec ?
                    Ok now I feel a little better. Hell, my co-driver has them on his Audi S4 (mmm V8 goodness) and hasn't had problems. Like I said, I ran a set of 225/45/15s down to nothing over 1 packed season last year, and I've got them on my P5. No issues.

                    Also: good luck finding the dunflops (in all seriousness, they're an excellent tire) in a 14 ;)
                    ~Andrew
                    Atlanta Region SCCA
                    D Prepared Miata

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