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  • Advancing the timing

    Has anyone done this on a stock engine? I saw some dyno's for the 1.8 and it seemed to make a big difference for the low end. Anyone got any experience?

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    RE: Advancing the timing

    i have, and it made my 196,xxxk mile 1.6 feel a LOT stronger, especially on the top end. i beleive my timing is jumped up to like 18-19*, but not 100% sure. i had to back it back down to pass emissions (gwinnett FTL) and just advanced it as far as it would go when i finished the test.

    note that i have a EBAY cone filter, 4-2-1 obx-style header/test pipe, and full exhaust from there back with no-name muffler that came on the car when i bought it.
    DIE WHITE GIRLS

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    • #3
      RE: Advancing the timing

      I did it to my 96 and it was wonderful. Mind you, you'll have to run premium fuel, but honestly, on a typical fill up, you're looking at an extra $3. I doubt that extra $3 will make or brake your wallet (if it does, you have bigger problems to worry about lol).

      On my 96, with 150xxx miles a cone filter, stock exhaust manifold, stock cat, bosal cat-back and 16* timing, i put down 115rwhp and 112 rwtq, pretty healthy if you ask me.

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      • #4
        RE: Advancing the timing

        Not too shabby!!

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        • #5
          RE: Advancing the timing

          Pretty nice for n/a!

          Just boost it and be done! lol

          Originally posted by miata5620
          Eric's Garage ... You buy all the parts I tell you to and you will have a killer car... If you want other parts used your car will suck and it will cost you more...

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          • #6
            RE: Advancing the timing

            It surprised quite a few people... damn thing would scream off the line from a dig. I ran a friends MSProtege, killed him off the line but he barely got me on top end. lol I did later boost the car.

            Consensus.... bunp your timing.

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            • #7
              RE: Advancing the timing

              And that I shall...

              I've never messed with timing before, how long does it take?

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              • #8
                RE: Advancing the timing

                about 5 min. All you need is a timing gun and a 12mm wrench (i think it's 12..maybe 13 or 11?)
                If your coming to the meet on thurs and can bring a timing gun, i'll do it for ya.

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                • #9
                  RE: Advancing the timing

                  Originally posted by Doppelgänger
                  about 5 min. All you need is a timing gun and a 12mm wrench (i think it's 12..maybe 13 or 11?)
                  If your coming to the meet on thurs and can bring a timing gun, i'll do it for ya.
                  yep, pretty sure it's 12. And from 10-14* advance, you don't really need to worry about premium fuel. If you start getting up to 16-18, then I would. PS, read the last issue of GRM, they have dyno testing of different advances. I believe either 16 or 18 gave the most increase in HP through the RPM range. I'd have to go back to check which, but you get the idea ;)
                  ~Andrew
                  Atlanta Region SCCA
                  D Prepared Miata

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                  • #10
                    RE: Advancing the timing

                    I think I've heard it's 16 also. It'll be ok with a tank of middle grade fuel before the jump to 93 right?

                    Anyone have a timing gun?

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                    • #11
                      RE: Advancing the timing

                      Anyone else ever have the mysterious disappearing timing marks? lol...
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                      • #12
                        RE: Advancing the timing

                        Originally posted by MX5ATLanta.com
                        I think I've heard it's 16 also. It'll be ok with a tank of middle grade fuel before the jump to 93 right?

                        Anyone have a timing gun?
                        You can, if you want, calculate to run your tank close to E by the time you get to the meet on thurs, and by low i mean less than 1/4 tank. Then just fill up somewhere close with 93.

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                        • #13
                          RE: Advancing the timing

                          It should be lower by then. Today will be a back and forth to Atlanta trip and then Thursday to Gwinnett. Although it's currently at the point where I've got 72 miles and just on the full line. It'll plummet today though.

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                          • #14
                            RE: Advancing the timing

                            i run mid grade in mine and it doesnt ping or knock at all. mind you that i have ~196k miles on the motor and i dont think the compression is where it should be. you will DEFINITELY notice a difference when you bump it though. its the best thing since sliced bread. no joke.

                            but yeah, its a 12mm wrench. its kind of a ***** to get to and when ive done it, i had to use the old wrench hook trick to get enough leverage to break the bolt loose.

                            and no, kurt, nobody but you has weird *** problems like that. you fail. :D
                            DIE WHITE GIRLS

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                            • #15
                              RE: Advancing the timing

                              Originally posted by metalman
                              Anyone else ever have the mysterious disappearing timing marks? lol...
                              white out is your friend ;)
                              ~Andrew
                              Atlanta Region SCCA
                              D Prepared Miata

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