Just installed coilovers - alignment info needed.

[NA6R]

Kaufman said 129 if camber adjustment was involved.

^that tells me Kaufman doesn't know their *** from a hole in the ground.

[trajedy]

You have the rake screwed up which may contribute. My car is 3.25" F and 3.5" rear, and I don't have anywhere near 4 degrees of camber and my adjusters are about in the middle I believe.

You can also try Butler Tire as that might be where I'm taking mine. The big problem with Miatas is that most alignment guys have no earthly idea how to properly adjust the eccentric bolts. In the front you set the castor and the camber in that order with the eccentrics, then the toe with the tie rods. In the rear you set the toe and then the camber. I'd ask whatever shop you take it to to describe to you the process they will use and if that isn't it leave.

GTE is about the most experienced shop out there and well worth the money. The dealer charges 140 for a full alignment, Kaufman said 129 if camber adjustment was involved.

The final problem is depending on the year of your car you may be in serious need of bushing and eccentric replacement.

Those are the heights I am currently shooting for. I just keep running out of time with working from 1-9 and still trying to get another car to pass emissions. Butler tire was my next option. GTE quoted me at around 100-125.

As far as the bushings and eccentrics being replaced goes, I'm looking into that as well.

The model year by the way is a 1990.

[miatasaint]

^that tells me Kaufman doesn't know their *** from a hole in the ground.

Its just taking more money for people who just dont even know. lol


Trajedy, I hear Butler does good work.

[Fastblackie]

I'm surprised that nobody mentioned the shop that Rspeed uses for alignments. They did a great job on my car and the price was considerably lower than the current stated prices. Also they get the alignment specs from Rspeed so you won't get just another simple alignment from simple people who simply get it in the green and let it go. You should give them a call...

[trajedy]

I'm having issues getting pictures off of my phone, but I took it to Butler and the rear camber is set to -2.7 and -2.4

Front left camber: -.9
toe: .5

Front right camber: -.5
toe: .9

It's a HUGE improvement from where the last shop set it, not to mention they left my eccentrics and tie rods loose. :/

[nickt93]

^ those are your new specs? Better, but still not optimal. Why so much rear camber and so little front? Why so much variance between left and right?

[91LudeSiT]

That must understeer like crazy...

[iamdallas]

^ those are your new specs? Better, but still not optimal. Why so much rear camber and so little front? Why so much variance between left and right?

My guess is that he is very low, maybe not exactly even ride height, and worn out eccentrics/bushings/other suspension components. Long ago I also had the issue of cheap suspension components affecting the adjustment in my front end. Stupidly I bought crappy autozone FLCA ball joints and they toe'd my tires in about 1.5 degrees each side. Needless to say, I'll never make that mistake again. When I can't get OEM, I buy Moog. The (also crappy) tie rod ends were even too short to compensate for the toe.

Don't
Buy
Crappy
Parts.

This is the result of that FLCA ball joint about 2-3 months later.





My car had uneven alignment issues until I replaced my eccentrics and bushings. It is much more compliant now.

[trajedy]

The camber in the rear is maxed out. I'm assuming new eccentrics and bushings would fix it based on what i've read. Regardless, they're necessary after over 20 years in my opinion. I don't quite understand the variation between left and right up front, but I will be taking it back to have the front specs matched.

As far as the ride height goes, its a pretty even 3.25 up front and 3.5 in back.

[91LudeSiT]

If you have the factory toe the fronts should have about .4 degrees more negative camber then the rears.

[NA6R]

Might as well do front eccentrics too.

Get the front to 2.0 and the rear to 1.5

[91LudeSiT]

Might as well do front eccentrics too.

Get the front to 2.0 and the rear to 1.5

Not going to happen at that height without either getting the ISC racing offset camber bushings or the V8R autocross package with with new control arms that have an extra eccentric for camber.

[ben91]

Still seems less than optimal, but I still suspect that there is more going on here. Your car is too low, and you also indicated 15x8 +12 wheels with only 195 tires on them.

What exactly are you going for? Super low ride height + wheels with ridiculous offset + 195 tires /= performance

I'm mostly surprised the wheels fit in the fenders, TBH.