The ARRC

[deerock]

Title:
ARRC / Pro-IT / Enduro Club Race + PDX

When:
November 06, 2008 - November 09, 2008

Where:
Road Atlanta - Braselton

i know for sure that ill either A) work the event or B) attend the event as a guest. but i wanted to know who all would be going, from what ive heard its not a spectator event..but im not sure. but just incase it is and your one of those whom can get into every event anyways post up!

for the ones whom wont/or cant attend the event, i will post up pics from the event!

[metalman]

It is usually a good event, one of the most fun SCCA races of the year.
I'll be there as usual.

[adjake]

I should be there.

[deerock]

great! looking forward to seeing you guys! of course i see the famous kurt every thursday :naughty: :lol:

[jesseealexander]

ill be there, but working :(

but at the same time, thats a big :) :) :) for me. work = $$$$$

[Grantri]

We'll be there to collect our trophy for last season's Pro IT series championship at the very least,


Matt has yet to decide if he's gonna race that weekend , money's tight but we'll see.

[amaff]

Definitely the coolest SCCA event of the year. I will be there Sunday (miata may or may not be).

[iJohnnyC.]

I will be there for sure Saturday and Sunday.

I missed both the WERA GNF and SVRA the last 2 weekends...

[FE3tMX5]

I have a codriver seat in a Spec Miata, but no license (expired)...yet. :D

[Doppelgänger]

One day... i will have a license so i can drive something at some event up there :(


Still can't decide if i want to sign up for the PDX or not...If I only knew what the stipulations of working and driving were. I mean, if i sign up as a worker, do I just show up and they put me somewhere? I've never worked an event up there.....thought i would really like to.

[adjake]

Whats the best day to go Sat or Sun? I will have to work one of these days.

[FE3tMX5]

Saturday as a spectator- more diversity of cars on track.

[MeFryRice]

Mike, to answer your question. I believe your there to work, your driving privileges are taken away.

[adjake]

One day... i will have a license so i can drive something at some event up there :(


Still can't decide if i want to sign up for the PDX or not...If I only knew what the stipulations of working and driving were. I mean, if i sign up as a worker, do I just show up and they put me somewhere? I've never worked an event up there.....thought i would really like to.


They will probably assign you with someone on saturday that knows what they are doing and they will teach you what is going on. I had a buddy do a pdx a few months ago and he said it was well worth it. He learned a lot from the intsructor, got a log book which is what is needed to progress to the c group at some point.
BTW the 95 MPH limit makes a whole lot of sense in a street car when you are driving someone else (instructor). If you progress to c group in a stock car with stock safety stuff then go nuts with your OWN life. I've been at over 110 on the back stretch at RA with a bone stock 99. I will not do it again w/o proper safety stuff.

[RotorNutFD3S]

After reading a ton of articles in GRM about the ARRC, I'd love to get into it. Sounds like a ton of fun.

[FE3tMX5]

The pdx/worker arrangement sounds like a deal to me. Race action and driving action. I know several guys who've done it and love it. I instruct for the pdx when I'm not under the car between sessions. Never seen anybody come in after a session of Rd. Atl in their car without a big *** smile from ear to ear. :D

[Doppelgänger]

One day... i will have a license so i can drive something at some event up there :(


Still can't decide if i want to sign up for the PDX or not...If I only knew what the stipulations of working and driving were. I mean, if i sign up as a worker, do I just show up and they put me somewhere? I've never worked an event up there.....thought i would really like to.


They will probably assign you with someone on saturday that knows what they are doing and they will teach you what is going on. I had a buddy do a pdx a few months ago and he said it was well worth it. He learned a lot from the intsructor, got a log book which is what is needed to progress to the c group at some point.
BTW the 95 MPH limit makes a whole lot of sense in a street car when you are driving someone else (instructor). If you progress to c group in a stock car with stock safety stuff then go nuts with your OWN life. I've been at over 110 on the back stretch at RA with a bone stock 99. I will not do it again w/o proper safety stuff.



I don't know where they'd put me... i have various track experiance..from drift, auto-x and been out to TGP a few times. Dunno if any of that counts toward c-class. I do have a nice rollbar and 6-point harnesses... if that's the safety equipment you speak of. Matt B. can vouch that i'm a safe fast driver on the track :)

(something tells me that my car will do every bit of 140mph on the bck straight)

[deerock]

something tells me that i wouldnt doubt anything you just said. ;)

[amaff]

I do have a nice rollbar and 6-point harnesses... if that's the safety equipment you speak of. Matt B. can vouch that i'm a safe fast driver on the track :)

Only problem is that it's a double hoop. It would be up to the guy teching the car and the instructor whether or not it'd be allowed on track. You wouldn't be the 1st to have that problem.

[jesseealexander]

^^ the bar he has is SCCA approved. i believe its the boss frog dual hoop thats actually a really BA roll bar.

[Doppelgänger]

yeah, no stlye bar.. it's a BF double maxx.... and i'll print out the test results if need be.

[amaff]

yeah, no stlye bar.. it's a BF double maxx.... and i'll print out the test results if need be.

I know it's not a style bar, I'm just telling you based off of what I've heard, seen and read in the passed. You may want to PM 77ssc on the Solo Atlanta forum about it.

[Doppelgänger]

I will when I get home, thanks for the heads up.

[2pt5RS]

I'll be there working. I'm crew chief for my buddies race team, so I'll be working the entire weekend. :)

I guess I should give more information as far as that goes... :lol:

ITA 05 Red Acura Integra.

http://www.tomhoppe.com/labels/Racing.html

my :unamused: stickers will be on the back of the car...if they ever get here...might put a pedobear sticker on there too!

[Jack-MX5ATLanta.com]

welcome matt! post up an intro!

[2pt5RS]

I don't wanna! I only joined here to thwart my coworker who needs help with his suspension install.

:p :butt:

[adjake]

If you have a log book from other licensed instructors that have signed off they may take that into consideration but I doubt they would let you into c group unless you have driving school experience. They will start you a log book and you may be able to advance quicker with your experience. I would think your bar would be ok it is solo approved. Let us know what they say about it, this is the bar I really want. Do you meet the 2 inch clearance requirement with helmet on?

Still worth it I think. 95 may seem slow down the back but it is faster than you would want to go the rest of the way around.

[Doppelgänger]

OK, i don't get it. I was goign through the process of signing up via DLBRacing and it's saying that I need to pay $50? I thought the workers get compensated and you end up with like $20 at the end of the weekend? I'd ask on soloatlanta, but it seems the site is down.....

Can I really just show up first thing Sat. morning and tell them I want to work and run the PDX?

[MeFryRice]

I wouldn't mind working this as well.

[adjake]

OK, i don't get it. I was goign through the process of signing up via DLBRacing and it's saying that I need to pay $50? I thought the workers get compensated and you end up with like $20 at the end of the weekend? I'd ask on soloatlanta, but it seems the site is down.....

Can I really just show up first thing Sat. morning and tell them I want to work and run the PDX?


http://www.atlantascca.org/pdx/77-about-pdx.html

Don't know if you saw this yet? Looks like you can register at the event, but I would err on the safe side and get it done beforehand.

[Grantri]

The verdict is in and the plan as it stands now is to "go racing"

We usually set up in the lower end of the paddock near turn 1. Look for the black & Red #8 E30 and come say hello. Hopefully we dont have any issues with the car and will have some time for hanging out

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_P_J1HQXmlY8/RqYa_eqxvxI/AAAAAAAAAOk/X2JiPtNyoiw/s320/DSC00353.JPG

[Grantri]

Damn,

Just pulled the schedule of events...Seems our Pro IT race is on FRIDAY at 1:00. Makes it tuff on those of us with jobs to get there, registration closes at 2:00 (I have a long history of gripes with the SCCA registration process, ugh). They are gonna have "track touring" Friday at lunch time, which is fun especially if you havent had a lap out there.

We arent running the Enduro so we'll be done for the weekend before lunch on Saturday

[simontibbett]

LOL @ track touring, where is Matt (BMW) we had some nice driving in that last time LOLOL.

I'll be there starting tom. for the test day. But not doing the PDX, SCCA is starting to make me mad with their non-wheel to wheel activities. Like the Solo 2 schedule, new PDX rules, etc.

[Grantri]

We'll miss the test day,

I know this is a fairly big weekend but its damn near impossible for us to take two full days off work to go spend money at the track. Sometimes it seems as though "teh club" has its collective head in its ***. I've had to pay to get in the damn gates because I couldnt get to the track by end of registration (Friday at noon) and we've had some other issues with silly crap. I've spoken to some of the higher ups and invariably the answers are "Well its the way we have always done it"

One woul think every effort would be made to accomadate those folks who actually put cars on the tracks & pay entrance fees etc. .. Pointless rant I suppose and I'll pay my damn membership again next year but sometimes it just seems like they miss the boat.

[amaff]

Why don't you put that in a letter to the execs of the club?

[Grantri]

BTDT....Car owner has done so as well and we have both spoken to officials at various events regarding a few issues
Responses tend to be along the same old lines "It's the way we've always done it "and "Well it IS a volunteer organization"

They are certainly slow to change

[adjake]

So who is all going? Is anyone driving in the PDX? I should be there as long as my free ticket comes through.

[amaff]

I'll be there on Saturday in the S2k

[iJohnnyC.]

I will be rolling in around 2pm on Saturday. I'm still unsure about Sunday...

[Grantri]

I'll be there around luch time tomorrow , we'll be done racing by lunchtime Saturday but assuming nothing untoward happens we plan to hang out for the awards dinner Saturday night and head home Sunday

[Doppelgänger]

see you guys early sat. morning... i'll be registering as a worker and running the PDX.

[Grantri]

Had a damn good weekend..

We wont Friday's Pro IT , had a great battle with David Stillman's 240Z . Passed him on lap 13 and managed to hold on for the win . Took third in class in the AARC, Stillman managed to get by us early and we couldnt get back by, had a pretty large "off" in turn 3-4 but managed to catch back up but still couldnt get by. The gray 944 smoked the ITS field , nobody had anything for him . We sat at Saturday night's award ceremony forever and were finally told that our group's race had yet to be declared official and the stewards had left for the evening (ugh) . No one was held in impound so I have no idea what the issue was. We packed up and headed home Saturday night

We are still chasing the intermittent miss demon, the list of parts we havent replaced is short than the list we have. Seems like the issue is a broken or skinned wire in the car are gonna yank all the wires out from under the dash and rewire it all point to point to prepare for Feb.

Met deerock,Matt & his buddies , saw Doppleganger's car pass by (waved) but of course I was on foot & he had no idea who I was .

Great weekend

[Doppelgänger]

Sorry man, when i'm driving around the paddock i'm looking all over the place to make sure no one is goign to jump out in front of me....which you practically need to do to get my attention :lol:

I had fun flagging #9 and Sat. and #1 on Sun (note to self -get something to cover ears). There were a couple fiascos, but nothing major. Obviously the best part of the weekend was running the pdx on sunday. I managed to see my speedo hit 135 banana and found out that my Hawk HP+ pads don't like that.... so i slowed it down to 120 on the back straight. I met as lot of very nice people and will be back in Feb :)

Jenn came out and took some pics of the PDX too :) But I don't have access to the link here at work :(. I'll post them in the pics section when I get home!

[Grantri]

No worries...driving around in the paddock takes as much concentration as driving on the damn track. Scooters, pedestrians, scantily clad women, hot cars , race cars with limited vis,huge transports etc.....Cant imagine whay you wouldnt have seen some unshaven forty something track rat dude wave atcha..

Good to know they ok'ed your roll bar for the PDX , I need get one in my car and go up and work one weekend when we arent racing so I can "play".. Track touring is fun but I really wanted by that damn minivan in turn 5 .

[Doppelgänger]

Well, i'll be at the Feb. event and holefully working a different position that will allow me to talk to more people/teams/drivers. I really want to get my comp. license and make some friends so I can share a car...because I is too broke to rent one :(

[iJohnnyC.]

I did make it out Sat. late, I saw Doppelgänger working the back straight, Metalman around turn 10 (I know both of you have no idea who I am) while talking to Deerock for a few minutes.
Overall good times.

[JennB]

You did not just spell my name with an A.

[Sawyer]

Haha, I noticed that too!

[Doppelgänger]

... it was your imagination.

[metalman]

You did not just spell my name with an A.


Sorry Jann...all this time I have been calling you Jenn. :lol:

[JennB]

Tell Winston to get away from your desk.




Anyways.... on topic....


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3292/3016471693_a86251222e.jpg


You can post the rest

[Doppelgänger]

Yeah... as a matter of fact Winston was just here when I was typing that :lol:

[adjake]

Did your front bumper not pass tech? I was not sure it was your car. Snapped some pictures. I will try to get them up in a few days. Car looked good out there. btw anyone worried about the 95Mph limit forget it. There was a red vette out there in the A group along with a few others that were way way way north of 100 down the back.

[JennB]

No, it was at home in the garage. It comes off for the track just to be safe.

The VW in A group (I think it was in A) was crazy. Tires were screeeeaming through the turns. Wonder if he got in trouble for that. lol


I took a few pics but not too many. It was cold and the wind was hurting my eyes.

[Jack-MX5ATLanta.com]

Looks like good fun. I've got to make it to some track events next year.

[amaff]

RA is fun in general. The big 3 are the Mitty, the Petit (obv) and the ARRC. Then there's the WERA and Drift events, along with usually a few SCCA Regional and National races. There's plenty of action up there to be had, most of it (save Petit) can be had very cheaply as well.

[iJohnnyC.]

The only other high dollar big event worth a mention is Suzuki Superbike Showdown....which is just awesome!

[amaff]

The only other high dollar big event worth a mention is Suzuki Superbike Showdown....which is just awesome!


Man, I can't remember all of the ****s! GAWD! :p

[Doppelgänger]

Did your front bumper not pass tech? I was not sure it was your car.


Yeah, I take it off for some stuff... in the case of RA, I did it because the stock bumper will help keep the brakes cooler, which was a wise decision :cool:

[iJohnnyC.]

The only other high dollar big event worth a mention is Suzuki Superbike Showdown....which is just awesome!


Man, I can't remember all of the ****s! GAWD! :p


:lol: No hate buddy. I'm just a big Ben Spies fan. :naughty:;)

[Grantri]

Gotta post the podium shot,http://lh3.ggpht.com/_P_J1HQXmlY8/SRhdnlK0NuI/AAAAAAAACQA/-bDB-fq-1Mo/s512/DSC02976.JPG

[Doppelgänger]

Well maybe i'll be able to swing by and say hi and see the car come feb. I really wanted to walk around the paddock and look at some of the cars and stuff :(

[2pt5RS]

I was there, but it was VERY disappointing day for us. My buddy got spun in turn 3 on the FIRST lap...by his buddy....

the comment...what did you want me to do, back off? uhh, YES....we had the line, and we were ahead. the 'rules' of racing are that you back the **** off...it's the first lap, there were going to be plenty of other chances to pass each other....

[amaff]

I remember that off. I was sitting at spectator hill watching them crest the hill @ turn 3, all of a sudden 5 or 6 ITA cars are off on driver's left. It was pretty R-tarded.

[Grantri]

Bummer 2pt

We've been there. Got punted last year into the inside wall on turn 1 on the first lap of 20 by a car in a faster class . The guy knew he was faster than us and a little patience on his part would have saved us a bunch of time & money.

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_P_J1HQXmlY8/RqYSV-qxvuI/AAAAAAAAAOI/8fsYrci6bk8/s512/Mattscar1.jpg

Doesnt look too bad but bent hell out of everything

[2pt5RS]

damn, that sucks. The spin my buddy was in did about 2500 in damage. he got hit in all 4 corners. bent the control arms, and probably destroyed the Konis...luckily, we have warranty on those. ;)

[Jack-MX5ATLanta.com]

Cool were you racing Matt?

[Grantri]

Yeah...our little "accident" was worth about $3300 and untold hours of hammer swinging,swearing, inspecting and replacing parts... and the car is now just " straight enough" as opposed to being straight. Race cars do occasionally get wrecked it just sucks when its pointless. Had the other guy just held his line on the outside he would have easily pulled us up the hill into two and been gone.

On the good side nobody got hurt we got the car back together and we are still racing

[2pt5RS]

Cool were you racing Matt?


no, I was helping my buddy Tom Hoppe. We went to his house to do my suspension install. Right now, I'm crew chief, but I might do more road racing next year, depending on what we end up doing with that car.

[adjake]

No, it was at home in the garage. It comes off for the track just to be safe.

The VW in A group (I think it was in A) was crazy. Tires were screeeeaming through the turns. Wonder if he got in trouble for that. lol


I took a few pics but not too many. It was cold and the wind was hurting my eyes.


I can't believe the instuctor or corner workers did not pull that thing off the track. That thing was so bad and unsafe he almost went into the gravel sideways into 10a. Could have been real ugly.

[Grantri]

Got some in car video up from Friday's Pro IT win.

We chased David Stillman's 240Z for a dozen laps , finally got by on lap 13 (3rd video). It was a damn good battle between two evenly matched cars..He beat us out of second place in Saturday's AARC race.

You can hear the damned intermittent miss

part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EUbIpAYVYw

part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfM4_s8OVjc

part 3 (including the pass for the win) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9FML3O2ZwI

[Doppelgänger]

I want to get in the drivers seat.......



one day :(

Maybe @ Feb's event, one of you guys who race can jump in the car with me during one of the PDX sessions and give me some pointers :)

[Grantri]

Hey cool...

Found some vdo of our crash in the Jun Pro IT race (courtesy of one of the OPM Motorsports in car)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7ZNfjtaTHQ

[FE3tMX5]

Looks like the white integra just pushed him around ...?

I missed the entire weekend because of work (self employed). First one in many years. And the car I was to drive was fast- qualified on the SM pole for the enduro.

[simontibbett]

I'll see you all first race next year in ITA.

As far as tires squeeling in the PDX, what's wrong with that? ;) I got sideways a few times out of 12 last years ARRC I was waiting for a black flag lol

[Grantri]

The crash was last June, I just happened to find the vdo today.

The Integra didnt touch us but the yellow ITR Bimmer on the outside didnt realize we were still to his inside and turned down on us and into the wall we went.Had he just held his line on the outside he would have easily been in front for turn 2 .

[FE3tMX5]

yes, a few of the guys have tunnel vision