you gotta be ****ting me

[scandmx5]

http://my.att.net/s/editorial.dll?pnum=1&bfromind=7401&eeid=6646552&_sitecat=1522&dcatid=0&eetype=article&render=y&ac=-2&ck=&ch=ne&rg=blsadstrgt&l=hm

:facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:
******* libs

[lance]

http://my.att.net/s/editorial.dll?pnum=1&bfromind=7401&eeid=6646552&_sitecat=1522&dcatid=0&eetype=article&render=y&ac=-2&ck=&ch=ne&rg=blsadstrgt&l=hm

:facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:
******* libs

Should have just put on a cowtalytic converter:p

[scandmx5]

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
+1 for lance
:lol:

[MoD_Scotty]

One cow produces 32gal of methane a day. Instead of changing that, we need to be collecting that ****!

[Jack-MX5ATLanta.com]

It's not that silly if you're concerned about global warming and such, cows are worse than cars.

[scandmx5]

It's not that silly if you're concerned about global warming and such, cows are worse than cars.

no sir i dont belive in such **** as global warming
these things happening now, happened to earth thousands of years before, but no way to record and preserve it like we do now, it'll pass another ice age comes with it....etc..

and if it was- the few inside the perimiter that drive prius, compost, organic shoppers, vegans, and all the other liberal **** surely aren't going to save the earth, it would take billions of people

[Jack-MX5ATLanta.com]

Well I view it as the Earth naturally going through it's heat cycles like all other planets/stars in the universe. But if people are going to ***** about our cars causing the problem then I think that everyone else who pollutes as much should have to deal with the same ****.

[scandmx5]

Well I view it as the Earth naturally going through it's heat cycles like all other planets/stars in the universe. But if people are going to ***** about our cars causing the problem then I think that everyone else who pollutes as much should have to deal with the same ****.

true

[jester911]

Back about 25 to 30 years ago the same experts were predicting the next ice age about where we are now in time. Since the sun is what actually controls warming or cooling and our relationship to it is ever changing of course there will be warmer and cooler periods over time.

Mans actual effect on the earth's climate is almost too small to measure. However those that don't go along with the global warming scare are perceived to be evil in some way. In the end it is just another political money grab.

[scandmx5]

Mans actual effect on the earth's climate is almost too small to measure. However those that don't go along with the global warming scare are perceived to be evil in some way. In the end it is just another political money grab.

the whole "going green" marketing works too! im not into it, but it works for em, people will buy anything these days :lol:

[Jack-MX5ATLanta.com]

You have no idea how bad it is in England right now. Everything is about our carbon footprint and cars are being taxed out the arse.

[JennB]

Wait, so you think people are stupid for doing their part to do what they think is right?

You know, just as you think global warming is crap, there are a lot of people who don't. You cannot possibly say that humans are not having a negative effect on the Earth even if you don't agree with global warming. You can't deny pollution of the water, air and soil, you can't deny smog and other very obvious side effects of humans on this Earth. Being "green" is not all about global warming, it's about keeping the Earth beautiful and making sure its wonders are here for future generations and they can still drink the water and eat food grown in the soil.

Why do you care if these people want to do what they believe in on their farm? It's their time, effort and money and if it makes them feel better to do what they consider right, then good for them. Better to go the extra step to do what you think is right than to sit there and think it's someone else's problem. Yes, it will take a lot of people to make a huge difference but change never starts with everyone, it takes time. Even if just a fraction of the population tries... it still helps. So you think if everyone isn't doing it, then it doesn't matter. There are a lot of people who think one person can make a difference and that even if we aren't doing enough to change the whole picture, at least they tried and at least they did their part.

I am really not a fan of judging someone so harshly and name calling because they have different views than you.

[wantboost]

Wait, so you think people are stupid for doing their part to do what they think is right? There are a lot of people who think one person can make a difference and that even if we aren't doing enough to change the whole picture, at least they tried and at least they did their part.



in short yes, yes i do.

[JennB]

Well... that's a shame.

[wantboost]

and here i was was hoping for another novel

[JennB]

Keep hoping. I have no desire to entertain you.

[wantboost]

That's ok, I already had a good chuckle. g'night

[JennB]

You're not the only one.


It would be really nice if you wouldn't try to insult me for having opinions that differ from yours. I could say a lot more but I don't believe in blindly insulting people I don't know.

[Doppelgänger]

China:

http://china.usc.edu/App_images/linfen-pollution-450.jpg

http://www.thelightisgreen.com/China%20pollution%20Beijing.jpg

http://sendin57.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/chinaairpollution.jpg

Mexico City:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/150/409583813_e593cdab65.jpg

http://www.ncar.ucar.edu/assets/images/cars_pollution.jpg

Brazil:

http://images.encarta.msn.com/xrefmedia/sharemed/targets/images/pho/t767/T767375A.jpg



I'll admit, i'm NOT some "hippy" or some super-enviornmentalist or running out to buy "enviro-friendly" products, but there is no denying that stuff like the above pictures IS contributing to the global climate change. China, India, Mexico and Brazil (among others) are prime examples of areas that the air has gone to sh*t..and there is no denying it. To think it's not making an impact is like thinking that smoking cigarettes isn't bad for you. Do I think that EVERYTHING is to blame on people? No. I do belive it's a combination of a natural cycle...and what people are doing. I also think that running out and buying a Prius is the answer either. People don't think about all the extra construction equipment running (diesel fuel) and shipping involved makes it just as bad...just to create something that makes a little less. The difference will come in cars that are simply more efficent from the get-go. Small diesel engines and gasoline cars that get 40+mpg without all the extra fuss.

Now I do take small steps...like changing the bulb in my house to more efficent ones and not buying chinese-made products when possible. Are you going to call me stupid now too? I'm sorry, but taking steps that will help by making any positive difference isn't something that should be condemned. So woopde-f*ucking-do that someone is doing something so their cows make a little less methane and that the cows are healthier and they sleep a little better at night. I'm sure they'd laugh at you for something you think is completely normal.

Let's take a wildfire for example. Sure, it's one small area burning and might not seem like much. But let it go for days and this is what you get...

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.greendaily.com/media/2008/02/wildfire-satellite-view-550.jpg

Now, imagine what areas of heavy industry who are on 24 hours a day....years on end, are doing to the air. If that kinda stuff can effect a small area, what's keeping it from effecing a large one?

[wantboost]

You're not the only one.


It would be really nice if you wouldn't try to insult me for having opinions that differ from yours. I could say a lot more but I don't believe in blindly insulting people I don't know.
in for edit:

I honestly do not feel I insulted you, so I am sorry if you feel that way as it was not my intention.

For the record your opinions are not that far off from mine.

[JennB]

It's cool. But telling people you are laughing at what they wrote really isn't the way to show that.

[wantboost]

It's cool. But telling people you are laughing at what they wrote really isn't the way to show that.
x2

http://ohaidubai.com/images/serious_business.jpg

[MoD_Scotty]

TOTAL THREAD HIJACK:

What I don't understand, is that growing up in Orlando, we had recycling bins, one for paper, and one for plastic/glass. I wanna say that started as early as the late 80's. Early 90's at the latest. It's now 2009, almost 20 years later, and the city I live in has no such program. WTF.

Even though I've worked at Sea World, and was an environmental science major for a couple years, I am by no means a hippy/tree hugger/etc, but this just seems straight up dumb to me. Less crap in landfills, less demand for raw materials, additional jobs.

My 1c (I recycled the other 1c)

[wildfire0310]

TOTAL THREAD HIJACK:

What I don't understand, is that growing up in Orlando, we had recycling bins, one for paper, and one for plastic/glass. I wanna say that started as early as the late 80's. Early 90's at the latest. It's now 2009, almost 20 years later, and the city I live in has no such program. WTF.

Even though I've worked at Sea World, and was an environmental science major for a couple years, I am by no means a hippy/tree hugger/etc, but this just seems straight up dumb to me. Less crap in landfills, less demand for raw materials, additional jobs.

My 1c (I recycled the other 1c)

Part of that is now days they want YOU to pay THEM money to recycle your things. One of my friends from highschool family would take their own trash to the dump instead of paying for it. Well I remember at one point they decide to recycle everything thinking hey, maybe they still pay a few cents on the pound for recyclables then when he went to deliever it they wanted to charge him.


As for one person making a change. In the small scale it works but not in the large scale. But, until big companies and power plants start to produced "green" products nothing really going to change. It is like all the electric cars... what is really the point when over 50% of our electric grids are still powered by coal.

[LagunaJames]

+1 Scotty... don't understand how we had three different bins in Florida, but I have to drive 20minutes to recycle something here. weird.

All the crap that humans spew into the air, water, and soil can't be good for us. I try to conserve where possible, and recycle when it is somewhat easy. But all the treehuggers in America need to take a trip to a 3rd world country. Their efforts are misplaced. Even if you regulated coal out of existence and everyone in America took mass transit and a bicycle, you still have to contend with most of Africa, the Mid-East, and the Asian continent is spewing out horrendous amounts of pollution right and left. Hell, I read a statistic (take random statistics for what they're worth- not much since you couldn't see the numbers) that pollution floating across the Pacific from China was more of a hazard to California then all the cars in California.

[Doppelgänger]

All the crap that humans spew into the air, water, and soil can't be good for us. I try to conserve where possible, and recycle when it is somewhat easy. But all the treehuggers in America need to take a trip to a 3rd world country. Their efforts are misplaced. Even if you regulated coal out of existence and everyone in America took mass transit and a bicycle, you still have to contend with most of Africa, the Mid-East, and the Asian continent is spewing out horrendous amounts of pollution right and left. Hell, I read a statistic (take random statistics for what they're worth- not much since you couldn't see the numbers) that pollution floating across the Pacific from China was more of a hazard to California then all the cars in California.

See my post about air pollution and the picture of wild fire smoke and how far it travels in fust a few days. I wouldn't be surprised if the air coming across the Pacific is still considered 'toxic' when it reaches the west coast.

[JennB]

Luckily, there are a lot of groups working to set global pollution standards and limits. It's still not enough until something changes but at least there are a lot pf people who acknowledge the problem and are trying to make changes. People who just want to do for themselves should reduce and recycle and those who want to become more involved can easily look up ways to support the movement on a larger scale.

I don't believe in the idea of not doing something because someone else is not doing their part as well. I will do what I can and even if my effect is tiny, at least I tried.

[metalman]

Mans actual effect on the earth's climate is almost too small to measure. However those that don't go along with the global warming scare are perceived to be evil in some way. In the end it is just another political money grab.

Bingo!
My opinion is that man's effort to 'save the planet' is a futile waste of time.
Mankind will never agree nor cooperate on a proper effort anyway.
Besides being beyond his scope of ability, nearly all efforts are completely directed
in the wrong direction or in the direction of making companies $$$.

People (even 99% of tree huggers) are not willing to make
the changes that might actually effect worldwide results.
If you made a pie chart of items ravaging our planet its likely that 90+% of the pie would be either the direct or indirect result of man's insatiable need for raising domesticated animals for consumption. Our farming methods and demand for 'perfect' high yield crops also play a role.

So, IMHO unless one is an organic vegan who doesnt wear leather they can shut up with their recycling and global warming bull****. :lol:

[jester911]

There is a misconception out there as well that those that don't believe in global warming don't care about the environment.

Speaking for myself of course I want to see the pollution get better.
The pictures Mike posted of course are of other countries besides ours.

The fact is most of the world doesn't do a fraction of what we do in that respect. There are many countries that you wouldn't even consider 3rd world that to this day still dump raw sewage into their waterways that feed directly into the ocean.
I don't have a problem in the world with recycling either. It just needs to be made more economical so that it can be done on a much wider scale.

Oh and as for all the pollution in the air actually causing global warming I don't buy it. The more pollution in the air the less sunlight is allowed to come through. So actually the effect should be global cooling. Just my .02

[RotorNutFD3S]

Oh and as for all the pollution in the air actually causing global warming I don't buy it. The more pollution in the air the less sunlight is allowed to come through. So actually the effect should be global cooling. Just my .02

Well the common argument for that is that the pollution creates a thermal blanket which traps heat in. However, I think it's bs because of the distance between the sun and earth is never the same, maybe within the next 10 years, we'll be further away and it'll start cooling and the diehard treehuggers will run around screaming "Global cooling due to pollution in the air!" :lol:

I'm like others here, just in the middle of it. I don't waste if I can help it, I use efficient products, recycle, etc., etc.

Not that it's the main topic here, but lightly touched on, there are hybrid drivers out there that drive those cars because they think it will help, like the idea, etc. and don't generally care past that. The ones that get to me are the ones that preach on and on with a one-sided blind argument, not taking into consideration the amounts of extra pollution and waste created to make their "Earth-friendly" cars. Hell, I'm willing to bet that since my car is more efficient with a turbo and more emissions friendly when it's precisely tuned that it's still a million times better than their car.

[JDM88]

Not only that but you're also driving a car produced 15 years ago. The damage done producing that car has long been outweighed by the use it's provided. Now compare that to buying a nice new Prius. If someone is that environmentally concerned they should be buying cars that have already been produced instead of requesting new ones. Because I can almost guarantee that the emissions from said car over the last decade aren't even close to that of producing a Prius.

Kurt I think I love you.

I'm not all about being green, just not being wasteful.

[Redraceface]

no sir i dont belive in such **** as global warming
these things happening now, happened to earth thousands of years before, but no way to record and preserve it like we do now, it'll pass another ice age comes with it....etc..

and if it was- the few inside the perimiter that drive prius, compost, organic shoppers, vegans, and all the other liberal **** surely aren't going to save the earth, it would take billions of people

Damn Hippies... I've always fantasized about the ironic justice of running through a field of hippies with a VW bus painted jet black with skull and cross bones on the front along with a mounted lance, all the while blasting heavy metal and Billy Mays over loud speakers.

[Spark!Plug]

we started recycling soda cans. well we just put them in a different trash can. it was something like 50+ cents a pound and a couple bags full would pay for the trip and you'd have a little left over. but last time i saw how much it was per pound, was lik 20 or so cents per lb. since i drive a miata, and not the thunderbird or truck.. i cant take the cans we've been saving to the recycle place. we have to have something like 40-50 hefty bags of cans right now.. this place im goin to and talkin about is an anheiser/busch place. as in budweiser etc. its in griffin.

[scandmx5]

Damn Hippies... I've always fantasized about the ironic justice of running through a field of hippies with a VW bus painted jet black with skull and cross bones on the front along with a mounted lance, all the while blasting heavy metal and Billy Mays over loud speakers.

as long as i get shotgun ...i'll videotape :lol:

i was onced asked to leave a dining establishment in little 5 points because i had a shirt that said "Liberals Suck" on it

the proprietor asked me to leave {didn't have to pay ftw!}
he didn't say **** when i asked "i thought i was in little 5 points the mecca of tolerance and diversity?"
imagine that, so i left didn't start anything then went to the vortex where all walks of life are welcomed :lol:

[JDM88]

Yeah that really isn't very liberal.

[metalman]

we started recycling soda cans..... we have to have something like 40-50 hefty bags of cans right now..

Recycling for cash...now that makes sense.
Up north my buddies and I used to collect bottles...often beer bottles after properly "emptying" them ;) and then take them to a redemption center. We would also get bottles from others who didnt feel like turning them in. At 5-15 cents each it can add up quickly.

[Roadster]

as long as i get shotgun ...i'll videotape :lol:

i was onced asked to leave a dining establishment in little 5 points because i had a shirt that said "Liberals Suck" on it

the proprietor asked me to leave {didn't have to pay ftw!}
he didn't say **** when i asked "i thought i was in little 5 points the mecca of tolerance and diversity?"
imagine that, so i left didn't start anything then went to the vortex where all walks of life are welcomed :lol:


Got a link to where you found the shirt? :D

[scandmx5]

Got a link to where you found the shirt? :D

ebay, my ex-gfs dad got it for me (he was russian) :lol:

[metalman]

Got a link to where you found the shirt? :D

Here's a couple... :lol:

http://t-shirts.cafepress.com/item/liberals-suck-long-sleeve-tshirt/123505213

http://www.cafepress.com/rightleaning.54658323

http://t-shirts.cafepress.com/item/liberals-suck-yellow-tshirt/62171884

http://www.cafepress.com/stickem2.48931955

[MoD_Scotty]

A little off topic, but I had a badass russian tshirt that just had a pic of an SKS, and "карабин системы Симонова" on it. Hells yeah. I wish I was 50lbs lighter so I could wear it again!

[scandmx5]

Kurt had that **** on standby!
mine is the 3rd one in yellow :lol:

[metalman]

This one is nice. :lol:

http://www.cafepress.com/rightleaning.54539074

[metalman]

Another excellent choice. hahaha

http://www.cafepress.com/rightleaning.124996038

[jester911]

Those last two are very apropos.

[GVfanatic]

To me it's kinda like what Calvin so intelligently told me. So many vegetarians and vegans out there are against the harm or slaughter of animals, yet most of the vegetables they consume are protected by means of farmers killing off deer, rabbits, raccoons,and multiple bird species around their fields of crops. and i bet hardly any vegetarian or vegan will ask if their food was grown in an indoor clean air lab. also a vast majority of farmers use pesticides which we all know have a great toll on air, water, and soil pollution.

[scandmx5]

^ my ni**a!

[Redraceface]

as long as i get shotgun ...i'll videotape :lol:

i was onced asked to leave a dining establishment in little 5 points because i had a shirt that said "Liberals Suck" on it

the proprietor asked me to leave {didn't have to pay ftw!}
he didn't say **** when i asked "i thought i was in little 5 points the mecca of tolerance and diversity?"
imagine that, so i left didn't start anything then went to the vortex where all walks of life are welcomed :lol:

Yeah; I love how honesty can piss people off so easy... By the way I was just telling my wife the other day that I wanted a shirt that Said "Liberals Suck", or something even more insulting on it simply because I like to Stir the pudding. oh and I really do hate hippies especially ones from San Francisco; I'll see if we can line a van ride up soon by the way.

[FooSchnickens]

Someone say vegan?

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r156/FooSchnickens/784b9dc9131235a0e79fa6e2e3007553.jpg

[scandmx5]

Yeah; I love how honesty can piss people off so easy... By the way I was just telling my wife the other day that I wanted a shirt that Said "Liberals Suck", or something even more insulting on it simply because I like to Stir the pudding. oh and I really do hate hippies especially ones from San Francisco; I'll see if we can line a van ride up soon by the way.

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can't post the embed for some reason
anyhow as much as i hate libs and the like...i always thought it was a good song
:hypocrite:
hell yes we can bash critical mass, the pink army, trannys, the black hebrew israelites, and the list goes on...
i hate critical mass the most, they give a bad name for all cyclists

[MoD_Scotty]

San Francisco is actually a really cool city. I've been there quite a few times.

[GVfanatic]

i've been once. horrible connecting flights through there. the airport hides down in a cloud of fog. i thought we were landing in a foggy lake till we got through the clouds only to see the ground 200ft under us

[Bernie]

Uh, not to bring this post back to the beginning... but I think that might have been a "smoggy lake". I'm just sayin'...

[Doppelgänger]

Yeah; I love how honesty can piss people off so easy...

Yup..if I have my honest opinion about some stuff on here, i'd be labeled an a**hole (although by some I already am for expressing aforementioned honesty :lol:).

[RotorNutFD3S]

I'm going to label you something else if you don't quit with that "a.a" crap. Use the * key, it's not hard.