And with the swipe of the pen freedom dies...

[91LudeSiT]

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=2fwith-reservations-obama-signs-act-to-allow-detention-of-citizens&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CB4QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fabcnews.go.com%2Fblogs%2Fpolitics %2F2011%2F12%2Fwith-reservations-obama-signs-act-to-allow-detention-of-citizens%2F&ei=m-r_TtaQCejc0QGF5KDIAg&usg=AFQjCNGz1H0NVqP9D5470_1jjWto0C-KMA&sig2=6x1zqULG6feA2_VRHqKMKA

Someday in the future, someone might ask you, "where were you when freedom died?", so mark this moment and remember.

First they came for the communists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.

Then they came for me
and there was no one left to speak out for me

[oldgrayfrog]

Let them come for me. It will take an American citizen, actually being detained, a suspension of habeus corpus, to challenge this UnConstitional piece of election year grandstanding. If Obama doesn't grow a set of balls soon, the rest of the country is going to start believing the lies that the GOP is spewing. If retired General Krulak, Former four star General of the Marine Corps doesn't think that the military, needs, or should have the power to detain American citizens, WTF do these Republican Congressmen and
Senators think they know? Unless the power is used however, it will not be challenged in court. George W Bush tried this tactic, detaining US citizens at Guantanamo Bay. GTMO is unusual, in that it is not considered US territory, unlike our embassies and other overseas stations. Basically, the Castros first ratified the treaty in 1958, then changed their minds, so while we still lease the base, the Castro's have not cashed the checks since 1960. the Cubans then claim the area as disputed. This puts those detained there into a no man's land. Because they are not on US soil, habeus corpus,(Latin for show us the body), is not in affect. There was one terror suspect, a US national who was held at GTMO four six years without trial, one of the Navy JAG lawyers filed an appeal with the sixth circuit court. On the day before the court was set to give it's opinion, the Bush administration let the guy go free. If the court had been allowed to give it's opinion, it could have decided, and set precedent that American citizens, no matter where they are found, or arrested, may not be held without trial, by USForces. This is just another attempt at making an end run around the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. I would have expected better from the former editor of the Harvard law Review.

[FooSchnickens]

Obama can go jump in a lake, congress can go DIAF and the justice dept can be held for treason for not keeping the other two in check.

This is ****ing ridiculous.

[miatasaint]

This makes me fckn mad guys. I think I need to buy a gun..

[jester911]

It is my opinion that we have been getting closer and closer to true socialism for many years. It has been happening slowly but surely. This is just one more step in that direction or even dictatorship if you will.

[metalman]

It is my opinion that we have been getting closer and closer to true socialism for many years. It has been happening slowly but surely. This is just one more step in that direction or even dictatorship if you will.

I concur. And I will take it even farther...
It has been my opinion for many years that Americans will eventually repudiate the
most essential principles of their constitution. However, I was hoping to have died of old age before that took place. I am growing a bit less optimistic now.

In my view due to constant erosion of thinking and resulting non constitutional laws many essential freedoms hang but by a thread. (much like our economy) It may take only one knee jerk reaction to an 'attack' or 'catastrophe' to be the straw that breaks the camels back.

[FooSchnickens]

The only "reservations" on obama's mind was where he is going to take his next vacation.

[FooSchnickens]

http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm61/ChanceGardener7/SCANTHOPE.png

[91LudeSiT]

http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm61/ChanceGardener7/SCANTHOPE.png

We need a like button on this forum...

[JesseShoots]

They say history repeats itself, and this seems awfully similar to what America did to prospective "communists" without proper reason. Not to mention these allegid communists were American citizens. Same damn thing that's happening now. Good thing there's a shot at swapping up the positions come the end of the year

[mustangtomiata]

Not that I disagree with you jesseshoots but the saying actually goes "if history is not studied it will repeat itself" sadly it is not studied

[Bernie]

Mark my words. There will be 4 more years of this insanity.

No other party has a candidate that is strong enough to contest an incumbent. The Democrats will gather votes the same way they did last time.

The only saving grace is to have a Congress that is of a more solid mind and mix, but that doesn't seem likely and will end up in the same sort of stalemates that we've seen lately over everything from budgets to what to order for lunch.

[subspeed6]

They say history repeats itself, and this seems awfully similar to what America did to prospective "communists" without proper reason. Not to mention these allegid communists were American citizens. Same damn thing that's happening now. Good thing there's a shot at swapping up the positions come the end of the year


Go back farther to WWII and look up Japanese-American Internment. History is already repeating itself.

[JesseShoots]

Yup, I forgot about that one. What they did there was equally as wrong as what we were fighting against in the war >.<

[ant_96]

Well, the US government is for the corporate, not for the people you know. Really pisses me off cause you know every politician has a grubby hand in some lobbyist's billfold. Laws are bought now-a-days. Look at SOPA. At least it got temporarily shot down. Though, Congress will just wait for the media to die down and pass it when no one is looking, much like EU did with the ACTA (a bill similar, if not worse, than SOPA).

Makes me sick, as I'm fairly young (24), to see this nation heading toward something it should not become.